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Old 08-31-2008, 10:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I certainly didn't have the experiences of MF and MB but I wonder about what would happen to my babies if Darlin and I had been killed that day in August. It could have happened but didn't. I sometimes wonder why we were spared and Darlin is just happy to be here. He says he has seen enough in his life to put him in that mind set. ( He was in the Coast Guard during Desert Storm, his best friend died in a car accident and another friend died in a house fire. Plus he saw his grandmother in her home after her death when he was 6 yrs old. She waved good bye to him.) I'm just not as sure about things and it makes me anxious. I was brought up Christian but am very openminded and not naive to others and their views. Christianity is built on faith and belief that there is a heaven and the actions that get you there or don't. I tend to think that God isn't such hard ass and that it's lot of words made up by those who want to have power over others. Most of the personal experiences I've had with my Father, as I call him, have been outside of church. Sorry about the side tangent.. It helps me to here about your experiences. It confirms how I think I feel about life and death and it's easier to believe than.." Grandma is sleeping with Jesus now. " Does that make sense? I hope that I didn't offend anyone
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Nothing offensive about that. We all question or should question.

Before my dad died, I asked him if he finds that "Heaven" is more like what I had described to him, than what the church had defined to him . . . and dad said, "would I give you a sign?" and sort of chuckled at me. Yeah Dad - give me a sign.

He hadn't been gone very long - a few months - when my sign came. A woman I had just met, whistled a tune for me and said it was from an older gentleman that I was very close to. It was his favorite hymn and one I used to play for him - Amazing Grace.

We are eternal beings - we have eternity. That's what I believe. Isn't that much more exciting than worrying about heaven and hell? Those are our own creations, maybe.

My father keeps his eye on me - I frequently sense him and now and then, I get a hug. He is such a good father.
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Nothing offensive about that. We all question or should question.

Before my dad died, I asked him if he finds that "Heaven" is more like what I had described to him, than what the church had defined to him . . . and dad said, "would I give you a sign?" and sort of chuckled at me. Yeah Dad - give me a sign.

He hadn't been gone very long - a few months - when my sign came. A woman I had just met, whistled a tune for me and said it was from an older gentleman that I was very close to. It was his favorite hymn and one I used to play for him - Amazing Grace.

We are eternal beings - we have eternity. That's what I believe. Isn't that much more exciting than worrying about heaven and hell? Those are our own creations, maybe.

My father keeps his eye on me - I frequently sense him and now and then, I get a hug. He is such a good father.
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Perhaps I was still far enough away from death that I didn't see anyone to guide me to the other side. If there was any sort of pull, I ignored it. I fought so hard knowing that my kids get seperated if I die (different fathers, neither one really fit, but for very different reasons). It has been a hard road. There is an appreciation for life, but there are still many questions and regrets. I've tried to find more spiritual meaning to it, but I guess life has gotten in the way.

I too had an incident where I was choked almost to unconsciousness/death, and from my reaction I have reason to believe such a thing also happened in my early childhood. I've been suicidal, but when really faced wth death all I can think is fight to live.
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i want to say thank you everyone that's posted their experiences here. I have always been petrified at the thought of death. i don't do well with the unknown. i mean i know my body is no more, but what about ME - my soul, the essence of who i am? do i even still exist? will i be able to see people i love? etc. not to mention, as scared as i am of it, i don't want to go fighting. i want it to be peaceful and i want to WANT to go (or at least be ready and at peace with going).

after reading these experiences, my fear is lessened. What has been said here is not only how i've envisioned death, but also how i've always hoped it would be. loved ones, peacefulness, a sense of happiness, etc. So thank you all so much for sharing your experiences and helping me to feel better about the prospect of death - since there's no way i can avoid it
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Smidget, when I worked in Respiratory Therapy I had to work on many people as they either fought to live or passed over, and I can assure you people dont' cease to exist at death. Not only can I say that because I feel echoes all the time and feel people still around in my daily life, but I would feel when people left their bodies. They didn't just diseappear and cease to exist, but some would remain while we still worked on them while some would leave. None of them just stopped being, and the ones who left were usually ones who seemed to really be ready to go...they left, but they were leaving to go somewhere, not just stopping being who they were.

Seriously the only people I saw really have trouble with dying were ironically the ones who were so busy trying to convert everyone to their faith as they got closer to death. They would scream and beg and cry and ask if we were all saved, and at the end were terrified. I always thought that was odd since they kept talking about how they were headed to heaven and Jesus would be waiting and trying to get us to convert. Otherwise though, some were ready to go if they had been sick, and some seemed to need to finish something before they left or not realize they were dead.

My point before I started rambling was that these people and my own experiences just don't support ceasing to exist or even being taken straight to a heaven or hell. They point to just a passage to another place or time or however you want to put it, and too many people have seen/heard/smelled/felt/received messages from people who have made the passage for me to think that we don't remain who we are on some levels after death.

My mother died from cancer and my sister had never really forgiven her for all the abuse she inflicted upon us. I had since I knew she was mentally ill, and it was interesting my sister looked up right about the time she died (hundreds of miles away and she didn't know she had died) and saw Mom sitting across the lunch table from her in the cafeteria smiling at her and nodding. She said she never saw her look peaceful that way, and I think Mom went to her because they weren't finished and she needed to have her see her last memory of her to be peaceful and smiling instead of mad and screaming.

Anyway, I'm glad these experiences helped you, Smidget.
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i want to say thank you everyone that's posted their experiences here. I have always been petrified at the thought of death. i don't do well with the unknown. i mean i know my body is no more, but what about ME - my soul, the essence of who i am? do i even still exist? will i be able to see people i love? etc. not to mention, as scared as i am of it, i don't want to go fighting. i want it to be peaceful and i want to WANT to go (or at least be ready and at peace with going).

after reading these experiences, my fear is lessened. What has been said here is not only how i've envisioned death, but also how i've always hoped it would be. loved ones, peacefulness, a sense of happiness, etc. So thank you all so much for sharing your experiences and helping me to feel better about the prospect of death - since there's no way i can avoid it
I feel the same way. I really loved hearing all these experiences. Thank you, everyone, for sharing them.

My reason for seeking these accounts is really kinda embarassing and stupid, but I can't just create this thread and then disappear from it entirely after such beautiful experiences have been shared. So...I honestly was worried that I might wind up going to hell. I'm married to a Christian and it gets me thinking sometimes. I have tried, but I really just don't feel right with Christianity. Not all by itself, anyway. And then I read something along the lines of those who reject Jesus are destined to do so and therefore destined to go to hell. Stupid, right? So I wanted to hear some NDEs from non-Christians to prove that wrong.

Thank you again. I definitely feel more at peace with religion and how I see the world.
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I feel the same way. I really loved hearing all these experiences. Thank you, everyone, for sharing them.

My reason for seeking these accounts is really kinda embarassing and stupid, but I can't just create this thread and then disappear from it entirely after such beautiful experiences have been shared. So...I honestly was worried that I might wind up going to hell. I'm married to a Christian and it gets me thinking sometimes. I have tried, but I really just don't feel right with Christianity. Not all by itself, anyway. And then I read something along the lines of those who reject Jesus are destined to do so and therefore destined to go to hell. Stupid, right? So I wanted to hear some NDEs from non-Christians to prove that wrong.

Thank you again. I definitely feel more at peace with religion and how I see the world.
That's not stupid at all. I grew up Catholic and even went to Catholic/Christian schools for 12 yrs.

I haven't stepped foot in a church, other than for a wedding, in years. I too, even as a child, had issues grasping the whole thing. I would ask many questions and got not answers. Well, I did, my answer was always "go to the principal's office."

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When my I was preggo with my twins, I was on bed rest for while and still ended up delivering at 34 weeks. Aside from PTL, my pregnancy was flawless. No high BP, nothing. I delivered my girls without a hitch, they came out screaming and guns blazing (just like their momma) everything was right with the world. They take them off to the NICU to give them the once over and start on my tubal.

That's when stuff hit the fan. Out of nowhere I got an excruciating head ache and I started to pass out, or so I thought until I heard machines beeping and my doctor asking what the hell was going on. I told Jeff to go, to please go be with out girls, they would need him, and that I was ok. He refused and told me they all needed me and that I wasn't going to do this to them, my boys, my daughters, him. He refused to leave.

Apparently it took them approximately 20 minutes to stabilize me, they finished up and took me to my room. Next thing I know it's after 2 a.m. (my girls were born at 5:30 and 5:31 p.m.). My nurse got me a wheelchair and took my to the NICU to see my girls. Here's the part that always makes me cry when I think about it. When I got there the nurse in the NICU informed me that while I was going down in the OR, my babies both stopped breathing and had to be intubated. (sp?) They had a machine breathing for them for 20 minutes.

I will freely admit, I have an uncanny connection with these girls, more so than with any of my other children. Not that I love them more or anything like that it's just our connection is different.
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